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Apr 19, 2008 10:28:38 GMT -6
Post by {GSR} Iota 1 on Apr 19, 2008 10:28:38 GMT -6
I am still firmly of the opinion that it is absolutely ridiculous that people pay for an M rated game where you shoot people and kill them and then have to watch their mouths for cursing. Seriously, are nazis less offensive than F-bombs? Frankly, if someone is too young to hear curse words they are too young to play any of the games which this clan provides. But then, I'm just a guy who plays here, I'm not even in the clan, so if that's how you want it there isn't a damn thing I can do about it. DoD is just a game. No one is getting killed. Sometimes the games are so intense people get excited and say things in exuberance. I can deal with that. It happens. Rollin wants to make sure certain words are not used and I have to go by that. I was taught that it is not right to use vulgar words around women and children. I am a USMC Vietnam veteran and lemme tell you, we swore every other word. I had to learn how to speak when among civilians all over again when I came home. It took some work, but if I can do it, I know others can do it also.
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Apr 19, 2008 12:31:30 GMT -6
Post by dicksmcgee on Apr 19, 2008 12:31:30 GMT -6
I am still firmly of the opinion that it is absolutely ridiculous that people pay for an M rated game where you shoot people and kill them and then have to watch their mouths for cursing. Seriously, are nazis less offensive than F-bombs? Frankly, if someone is too young to hear curse words they are too young to play any of the games which this clan provides. But then, I'm just a guy who plays here, I'm not even in the clan, so if that's how you want it there isn't a damn thing I can do about it. DoD is just a game. No one is getting killed. Sometimes the games are so intense people get excited and say things in exuberance. I can deal with that. It happens. Rollin wants to make sure certain words are not used and I have to go by that. I was taught that it is not right to use vulgar words around women and children. I am a USMC Vietnam veteran and lemme tell you, we swore every other word. I had to learn how to speak when among civilians all over again when I came home. It took some work, but if I can do it, I know others can do it also. It's just astounding to me that words which, by themselves are only offensive because of their connotations (why is 'heck' not a curse word when 'hell' is? Or 'crap' as opposed to 'shit?' They mean the same gosh darned/God damned thing!) and are surely things you really cannot prevent your kids from being exposed to at some point or another considered to be more harmful than young children playing violent video games? I'd be more worried about encouraging violence than encouraging bad language. And sorry if I'm ranting on this, this is something that has kind of irritated me about certain servers for a long time.
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Apr 20, 2008 23:49:16 GMT -6
Post by {GSR} Rollin~Death -=SR=- on Apr 20, 2008 23:49:16 GMT -6
you know you can not stop them from saying or playing things that are not proper. I however rather see my kids play dod which is a WW2 game based on a history than to see them play Grand Theft Auto where they not only break laws but can pick up a hooker. I know my or some of my kids say bad words but here's the deal.... I am like this..... My own nieces and nephews never swore a fowl word around me until they were in their twenties. You they slipped along the way but they also apologized to me as soon as they realized what they said. My kids also know that I can not stop them from saying words that are wrong but they very well know that saying stuff like "screw it" or "this sucks" gets my attention real fast not to mention anything stronger. My oldest still does not curse in front of me unless she is made and she is 17. Moral of this story is through out the differences of people in general I teach people to watch what they say and influence self control. I reply to my youngest daughter when she was 3 on up to her current age as yes Ma'am or no Ma'am. If asked by any stranger I use respectful words in my replies. I also am very proud on my clan and our respect for monitoring the servers and asking people to not use some words. I have heard many times from protective fathers and some mothers that would only let their children play on GSR servers because of our rules and the way we protect our youth. I much rather my child sit here shooting at the enemy rather than making a new enemy on the streets. Video games are bad but so is football in Europe where all the fans run out on the field and fight over a game. In the end it really falls back to the adults in life to prove they can separate and define the differences between a TV or monitor from real life.
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Apr 21, 2008 0:02:34 GMT -6
Post by {GSR} Rollin~Death -=SR=- on Apr 21, 2008 0:02:34 GMT -6
OK..... First.... Kick, slay, slap are what most reserved players have who ar or are not GSR members. However those same people have Crash, and mute abilities to increase the options to eliminate a harassing player if no higher admins are available... Reserved slots have these!? No. Only people who have donated for a long time and has become very familiar to the staff have been aloud to have these admin rights. They are limited to trust and judgment of donors who we view as very honorable players with every intent to hold up the good name GSR has made for itself.
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Apr 21, 2008 9:07:00 GMT -6
Post by thedrunkenmonkey on Apr 21, 2008 9:07:00 GMT -6
Just remember this....
WWDMD? What Would Drunken Monkey Do?
Chances are, he would fly off the handle screaming F bombs and saying dirty things about your mom and sister.
But its all about moderation, If a person lets a F trumpet sound on the servers before about 9:00 PM, then warn em, second time, kick, third, ban that sweet little succulent ass.
On a side note, I like to curse around Rollin and his family..... King too, King and I swear up a storm, Rollin can't get one in edgewise.
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Apr 21, 2008 17:28:40 GMT -6
Post by {GSR} Rollin~Death -=SR=- on Apr 21, 2008 17:28:40 GMT -6
shit you got me FKED up fella! if that tells you how I talk.
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Apr 22, 2008 8:48:37 GMT -6
Post by scribba on Apr 22, 2008 8:48:37 GMT -6
I don't find using the F bomb once in a while a bad thing. I do tell people to watch their language, and I do abide by server rules, but Dicks...when you have someone using the N word, and other racist comments of that nature, I do not tolerate that. That word should not be used in any game server. I don't care if you're the race that you're using the offensive language...it still should not be used on a public server. We have no control over kids who play the game. That's their parent's decision. But we can regulate the offensive words used on the server. I know with every admin that I've seen...warnings are given out multiple times for cursing, and it's really only one word that we really ban people for. We don't ban people for letting it slip. It's the ones that after we tell them to stop, they spam the mic with lude comments towards the admins. Most people are understanding, and I think it makes the game a little more fun. I know I've slipped and said the F bomb a few times, but I'm always quick to say I'm sorry for it. So Dicks...I do understand where ur coming from about cursing on the servers, but we have to keep it as clean as we can. It makes for less annoying bitching, and I think makes gameplay a lot more enjoyable.
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Apr 23, 2008 21:13:08 GMT -6
Post by spartan on Apr 23, 2008 21:13:08 GMT -6
Just a thought guys but if your gonna relax the rules after 9pm, then for all non-USA and USA players could admin sometimes flash up the time. Then theres no confusion and stops all the whining about which time zone they are in. Also I don't find the F word so bad the C word is far more worse in my opinion not that my opinion counts for shizzles. I use to be in clan TDR where no swearing was allowed at all, it does take getting use too and boy did I have to bite my tongue. Sometimes you just need to let that NOOB what you really think of him and his momma lol.
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Apr 24, 2008 0:42:07 GMT -6
Post by cicero on Apr 24, 2008 0:42:07 GMT -6
I use to be in clan TDR where no swearing was allowed at all, it does take getting use too and boy did I have to bite my tongue. Sometimes you just need to let that NOOB what you really think of him and his momma lol. Well put spartan. ;D ;D ;D ;D What do you mean about the timezones?
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Apr 24, 2008 11:48:02 GMT -6
Post by spartan on Apr 24, 2008 11:48:02 GMT -6
Well you guys have 3 time zones don't you? As for the rest of the world.... well theres no need for me to explain as I'm sure you know UK time is different from France, Germany, Italy etc.
So all the players need to know what time we are setting the GSR server clock to....... Central/Eastern. That way if the ADMIN does relax the rules after 9pm, we will all be singing from the same hymn book and there can be no confusion on what time it is on the server.
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Apr 24, 2008 19:13:57 GMT -6
Post by {GSR} `NG -=WR=- on Apr 24, 2008 19:13:57 GMT -6
4 timezones.
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Apr 25, 2008 19:39:27 GMT -6
Post by pukeee on Apr 25, 2008 19:39:27 GMT -6
good point Spartan. However, i do think that if the rules become relaxed then it shouldn't be known to people that play in the server, it should just be known to us on the forums. This way you can prevent people from thinking it's ok to swear after 9pm, where that's not entirely correct, as we dont want people cussing up and down just because it's after 9 o'clock.
if you're on the forums and have read this, then you can figure out what time it is when 9 EST comes around. then, just keep that in memory and if you need to let one slip go ahead.
does this sound good?
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May 15, 2008 3:23:21 GMT -6
Post by {GSR} Rollin~Death -=SR=- on May 15, 2008 3:23:21 GMT -6
Well, we should not relax any more than what one admin might feel is someone slipping and someone just being a jackass and repeating the words. To say after ( pm it cool to swear is like inviting everyone to say oh I forgot only after 9. We do not get angry with people and we do not really ban most people for long at all. I think Beer.Keg comes around allot and he has had his warnings ... Hell I even banned him once or twice for saying the F word. But it was only maybe a 24 hour ban. People like beer.keg might slip allot but he does try to make amends for his actions. Saying I am sorry really goes a long way with this clan.
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May 16, 2008 2:52:19 GMT -6
Post by thebear on May 16, 2008 2:52:19 GMT -6
I find that we do a good job. I ussualy just correct the person. When they say it fucking sucks I say " you mean fricken sucks" and they ussualy say exactly. Then I'll hear em say something again and sometimes its fucking sucks and sometimes they'll realize why I corrected them and they'll say Fricken sucks. Thats probably my favorite way to tell people not to swear. I try to keep it PG when Im playing. Sometimes thier could be some pg-13 for a few minutes which is fun, but we got to keep it clean. Thats the only way to run a good server with a good group of people. I honestly hate to ban people, but only if they really deserve it. Like what Rollin was talking about. If you need to ban someone for 30 mins or 24 hours then go ahead. Your still letting em back into the server your just telling them that they better get their act together. When I wasnt in GSR I mostly only played here because of the way that the servers were run. you know, noone was talking smak or hating on anybody. It was cool and always a good time and for me and its cool that I now can help the servers be run in a way that I would like someone to run if I was playing in another server.
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May 18, 2008 5:26:15 GMT -6
Post by spartan on May 18, 2008 5:26:15 GMT -6
Good work done by all admins, especially the ones that haven't banned me yet lol. I must admit I slip up sometimes with the F-word, but thats because I'm in the UK playing at 3am and forget its only early evening in the USA. I agree with the up-to 24hr ban, gives the player something to think about. I would say life ban for using the N-word or other such words, no tolerance toward that crap I say.
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